[LAB2]: NOT YET FULLY
OPERATIVE
(February 2001, last updated January 2002)
Examples of possible solutions
WARNING
DO NOT READ THESE SOLUTIONS unless you really have DEFINITELY retired from the Lab!
Leave NOW: Lab2 entrance is [here]
[1) SARAH: copyrights galore]
[2) SCHOUMNUS: how many idiots click?]
[3) MELCHOM: stalking politicians and powerful puppeteers]
[4) MAGRAD: images, as different as snowflakes]
Please note that your Lab-assignement is to find THE MORE ACCURATE DATA
about each
query target and to describe exactly all steps and paths you have followed.
Use pencil and paper,
you wont regret it... see the tips below.
1) Regional: copyrights galore
codename: Sarah
'copyrights galore' or 'the
importance of subsidiarity'...
'regional stabs', 'data extrapolation' and 'inference pointers'
How much of 'his' money does an author put in his own
pocket? Say, for a book he has written? Say for his program? Say for his images/photos/songs?
How high (or low) is his
percentage of the money really made selling his work? Middlemen... how many? How much? Copyright enforcers? Lawyers?
Spelunking boldly
in the dark world of copyrights.
Suggestion: you don't need to aim global... subsidiarity search! find the data for
-say- Sweden and Spain and you'll be able to extrapolate somehow... even if many, or even almost all parameters do actually
differ elsewhere...
Examples of possible solutions
Loki, february 2001
First attempt to answer to challenge [1 : SARAH] of the seachal2.htm
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My targeted country for this challenge is France. I'm not
an experienced seeker, and in term of evaluation the fact
that the language used is my mother's one has done 50% of
the job for me :)
I used the lexicon from ipr-helpdesk
in order to translate the "intellectual property" related terms the
better i could.
First of all i have build a "pool" of sites that seemed related
to our subject.
I used for that the meta search engine surfwax,
the directory of search engines L'indicateur, the SE
Google for his new hability to search inside
PDF, and the librarian's index to the internet
All sites were collected in 2 hours (if i remember it right)
You can consult my draft on the attached file : lokipool.txt
The first step of our travel is law-perusing. In France when the
intellectual property is concerned, we refeer to the Intellectual Property
Rights.
You can find a copy of it here : http://www.rabenou.org/cpil.html
To sum up, here is defined what is an artistic work, the patrimonial
right of the author, the moral rights etc ... all kind of author rights.
Note that compilations and translation are artistic works.
Let's have a deeper look at that part : Article L.131-1 - Article
L.131-8 : Exploitation des droits
Article L.131-4 :
La cession par l'auteur de ses droits sur son úuvre peut être totale ou
partielle. Elle doit comporter au profit de l'auteur la participation
proportionnelle aux recettes provenant de la vente ou de l'exploitation.
Toutefois, la rémunération de l'auteur peut être évaluée
forfaitairement dans les cas suivants:
1° La base de calcul de la participation proportionnelle ne peut être
pratiquement déterminée;
2° Les moyens de contrôler l'application de la participation font
défaut;
3° Les frais des opérations de calcul et de contrôle seraient hors de
proportion avec les résultats à atteindre;
4° La nature ou les conditions de l'exploitation rendent impossible
l'application de la règle de la rémunération proportionnelle, soit que la
contribution de l'auteur ne constitue pas l'un des éléments essentiels
de la création intellectuelle de l'úuvre, soit que l'utilisation de
l'úuvre ne présente qu'un caractère accessoire par rapport à l'objet
exploité;
5° (Loi N° 94-361 du 10 mai 1994) En cas de cession des droits portant
sur un logiciel;
6° Dans les autres cas prévus au présent Code.</PRE>
In other words, the author can make a transfer of right, full or
partial. But this transfer gots to have a proportional remuneration to the
author. Proportional to what ? The selling or the exploitation of the
work.
The listed cases define some exeption to this law : instead of a
proportional remuneration, you can have a contractual remuneration.
The articles from L.132-1 to L.132-17 are related to the contracts.
We have in the L.132-6 Article another case where contractual
remuneration could be choose instead of proportional one.
For a first edition of Scientifics Abstracts, Encyclopedia,
Illustrations of a book, prayer books (!!!), cheap book for childrens etc ...
It's the same for the journalism
That's for the Edition contract. There are other ones, you can have a
presentation of them one the
CALCRE site.
With these contracts, you can find an alternate way of editing your
works, because, as the CALCRE said, and as we'll see it later, with the
classical edition contract :
"Soit que le pourcentage de droits d’auteur devienne scandaleusement
bas, soit que l’éditeur pratique une rémunération forfaitaire là où elle
n’est pas justifiée, soit enfin qu’il profite de certaines ambiguïtés
juridiques pour minorer l’assiette des droits d’auteur (c’est-à-dire
leur base de calcul)."
The alternates can let all the rights to the authors. The distributors
are seen there as they'd have to be seen : as a SERVICE
Articles from L.321-1 to L.321-12 tells us that author can use Society
of Authors to recieve their due. These one are often choose for
musical, multimedia, computer programs authors
It's not the case for the book :
En d'autres termes, l'éditeur, sauf exception, ne paye pas directement
l'auteur mais il partage la rémunération en provenance de la société
d'auteur. Au contraire, dans la matière de l'édition littéraire, c'est
bien l'éditeur qui verse directement à l'auteur ses redevances. Il en est
ainsi parce que les éditeurs et les auteurs compositeurs, membres de
sociétés d'auteur ont donné à celles-ci l'autorisation de gérer leurs
droits. C'est donc, dans la plupart des cas, ces sociétés elles seules qui
perçoivent la rémunération pour l'exploitation de l’œuvre et la
rétrocèdent ensuite aux ayants droit.
http://www.chanson.ca/musiconseils/documentation/editionmusicale.html
So, we now have a first small representation of the general "artistic
field" in France :
transfer of rights
Authors -----------------------------> Editors
^ ^
| royalties |
Editors does a transfer of rights to the Society of Authors too
| royalties |
Society of Authors -----------------------
To finish with the law, you can find here an information report from
the French National Assembly to the EU about the opening of the european
art market
http://www.assemblee-nat.fr/2/sae/rap-info/i1965.pdf
I haven't read it in detail, but it could be usefull for the next part
(internationalisation of our data )
So ... at that time we know that authors can suscribe to a Society of
Authors. Who are they ?
SACEM: Music
http://www.sacem.fr/percevoir/conditions.html
5% on TV exploitation, 6% on Radio exploitation
"La plupart des auteurs d'oeuvres de l'esprit ont confié à une société
de gestion collective, notamment la SACD, la SACEM, la SCAM..., le soin
de délivrer en leur nom les autorisations pour la représentation et la
reproduction de leurs oeuvres. Ces sociétés d'auteur se sont regroupées
dans la SDRM pour gérer spécifiquement le droit de reproduction
mécanique."
Most authors have entrusted society of authors to deliver in
their name the authorisation for representation and reproduction of their
works. These society groups under the
SDRM (La Société pour
l'Administration du Droit de Reproduction Mécanique des Auteurs,
Compositeurs et Editeurs ) to manage the copyright of their works.
On the SDRM site, we can find the wanted percentage that was our target:
http://www.sacem.fr/percevoir/sdrm/prod5.html
"Le pourcentage est de 8 % sur le prix de vente au détail ou, à
défaut, de 11 % sur le prix de gros publié aux détaillants (PPD)."
8% on the detail selling price, 11% for wholesale price. But there
are abatements (a nice CD pocket reduce the percentage for exemple )
There's also a table for the minimum royalties on a CD.
SCAM : Documentary
http://www.scam.fr/
SACD : Fiction, theater, dance
http://www.sacd.fr/
For the cinema, we have here a
http://www.sacd.fr/Contrats_AV/cin%C3%A9ma%20mixte.pdf
typical contract. "Proportional royalties : ..... %"
ADAGP : Graphical Arts
http://www.adagp.fr/
http://www.adagp.fr/edition/fr/ju_drre.htm
A lawsuit beetween Frédéric Rossif, writer and realizer of "From
Nuremberg to Nuremberg" and his editor.
Here, the percentage is at 3 % on a sale of a videotape.
Let's have a look now from the side of the editors
http://www.calcre.com/
The edition world
http://www.calcre.com/res/sto/tomate.htm
Editors you need to avoid
Here you can download a guide on how to build Edition Contracts
http://www.culture.fr/culture/mrt/numerisation/fr/documents/guide_elaboration_contrats.pdf
Here is a contract edition, but not with percentage, this one uses the
method of "contractual remuneration"
http://landric.multimania.com/maitrise/animation/module4/contratedition.htm
Some books editors :
Cylibris
They offer : 5% to 15% to authors, 50% on multimedia exploitation
Couleur Locale
"For a book of 150 pages, published in 200 specimens, sold 100 FF (French Francs )
- Print Cost : 15 to 30 FF
- Librarian Stroke : from 30 to 50 %
- the rest for the promotion
This last point exceed generally the others.
In consequence, the author owns rarely something (...)" (my poor
translation of the interesting part)
now, the point of view of some authors on that subject
http://www.ac-nantes.fr/peda/disc/cdi/animlect/mayenne/elevhono.htm
10% for this one
http://ftp.univ-lyon1.fr/faq/by-name/fr/loisirs/bd
FAQ de fr.rec.arts.bd
8% to 12% for comics
I have collected some good documents, abstracts and other texts that
discuss the subject of the author remuneration in France
http://www.u-paris2.fr/dess-dmi/articles/pla/artremaut.htm
If you speak french, i recommand you to read that article from a
student in DESS of Intellectual Property.
I've extract two interesting sentences, wich i'll try to explain :
"Le taux de la rémunération proportionnelle : L’art. L 131.4 ne donne
aucune directive : le choix du taux est donc libre, en distinguant selon
les modes d’exploitation. Cependant contrôle du caractère non dérisoire
du taux : un pourcentage de 2.5/100 pour la rédaction de la
quasi-totalité des textes ne peut apparaître comme sérieux et s’apparente
nécessairement à une fraude à la loi (TGI PARIS 16.5.1969 D 1969.630). "
It is said that the choosing of a rate for the proportional
remuneration is free .. but there is a minus, under 2.5% it is consider as
"ridiculous" and is liable to the law.
(on verra que le recours au forfait devient de plus en plus fréquent
sous l’influence des nouvelles technologies).
The use of the contractual remuneration is more and more frequent under
the influence of new technologies
Articles from http://www.u-paris2.fr/dess-dmi/articles/plaart.htm are
indeed of great interest ! The newest one is an abstract about the
Artistic License and the copyleft.
We have now some percentages on the domain of : Music, Books, Films and
their derived
But there is some particular case. For exemple, the journalism. How
much is paid a news authors ? Is it a contractual remuneration, or a
percentage ?
You can access here to the site of the Journalists Trade Union where it
is discussed
I think we have now a good base about the author remuneration in
France. We can go a bit further trying to understand better the "artistic
field" as we did a little above
A simple search on google with "filière du disque" gives interesting
results :
www.sodec.gouv.qc.ca/etudes/pdf/ind_disque.pdf
It's located in Canada, i agree, but i think they are kinda valuable in
france too
On a 15.39$ Disc :
4.29$ to the Editors
1.41$ to musicians
0.84$ to author and compositor
1.44$ for the manufacture
2.96$ to the retailer
1.83$ to the under distributor
2.55$ to the main distributor"
http://www.sorbonne-av.edu/ancien_site_dess/fonds/synthese_filiere/synthese_filiere.html
Details about the artistic fields
Now, we can try to generalise our information to the EU, and maybe
later to the world :
Valuable information about the intellectual property can be found here:
http://www.ipr-helpdesk.org/t_fr/home.asp
Go here to access information about each country :
http://www.ipr-helpdesk.org/t_en/p_001_en.asp
http://www.assemblee-nat.fr/2/sae/rap-info/i1965.pdf
On the pdffed report of the national assembly, we have a nice table that sum
up for us the legal rate in some EU countries on page 27.
Here are some extracts :
France : rate : 3% thresold : 100FF | managing of the
rights by a society or individually
Belgium :rate : 4% thresold : 50 000FB
Espana : rate : 3% thresold : 300.000 Pesetas
Sweden :rate : 5% (...)
For the USA, a good start could be the <a
href="US Copyright Office Homepage
To sum up, there are multiples way to distribute artistic works, but
few gives more that 10% on the sales to the author.
The artistic field is far too long :)
I believe the power of Internet's going to help the mutation of this
field. Authors can promote and sell their book themselves on the net. No
need to use Editors, Distributors etc ..
To point out that believe, i give you some links 'bout that mutation :
Authors Rights and New Technology (Monique Léger) :
http://www.temps-reels.net/dossiers/dtsaut/leger.htm
"Key notions about author right with the test of networks" :
http://www.multimania.com/mifr/recht/jurinfo/memoire/mem_noframe.htm
Copyleft and destabilisation of the Intellectual Property :
http://perso.club-internet.fr/geraudd/4/preambule.html
Internet and author right : a problem :
http://www.internetactu.com/archives/dossiers/edition/grenouille.html
These are in french ... my targeted country. I'm sure it'll easy to
find international page related to that debate
2) Combing: How many idiots click?
codename: Schoumnus
'data reliablity' or 'the
importance of looking at the cui prodest'...
'hidden databases', 'newspapers and newsweeks perusing' and 'evaluation lore'
How much money will newspapers and TV-channels and radio stations
loose during the next years?
How much 'advertisement budget' will be diverted to the web?
11%? 33%? 45%?
How many advertisement campaigns on the web do each cost now (and will cost later)
more than 1.000.000 euros? 11%? 33%?
Are idiots and zombies clicking MORE or LESS on banners the more they use the web?
Is someone really clicking on ad-banners at all? Visual tricks used to lure clickingn ~
advertisement banners average per site.
Spelunking boldly
in the dark world of advertisement web-banners.
Suggestion: pop-ups and banners. Intestitial and
consumer behaviour. "Send & cash" and linkexchanges and webrings and so on. Potential bonuses for
clever seekers.
An [example of possible solution]
Here is my revised version of SCHOUMNUS ~Veliti~ September 2001
"A very inferior attempt @ SCHOUMNUS"
Well searching is - as Fravia puts it - all Lore.
It definitely is no science.
Well to start out the importance of searching is so evident now a days.
You want to learn more about any subject;) its out there.
With many diffrent views on the subject.
For instance with the SCHOUMNUS Lab exercise.
Its just a series of questions that needed to
be answered. And as you'll see you will get many different
answers that you will have to evaluate.
The way I see it there is five questions to answer
1. How much money will media loose during the next year
2. How much advertisment budget will be diverted toward the web
3. Are people clicking more or less
4. Visual tricks used to lure clicking
5. How much does an advertisment campaign on the web cost
The next step is to figure out some keywords to begin with and then we
will refine as we go.
+banner* +advertisement
Well we've learned persuing Googles' archive that with the above
keywords
A. CPM= average banner cost per 1000 views
B. Ad Click Rate= how often an ad gets clicked
C. Theres an Internet Advertising Bureau
Also some new keywords to look up
+"internet statistics"
+"market research"
+advertising spending by media
+internet and web revenue*
+"advertising confidence index"
+earning* report
+revenue*
There! Now I think we're ready for the first question.
1. How much money will the media loose during the next year?
Keywords- earnings report
- revenues
- media
- "advertising confidence index"
Here's some links that stand out:
myers.com/research/reports/me_confidence_pass.html
availme.com/boa4/market.index.jsp?x=market.industry23.html
availme.com/boa4.market.index.jsp?x=market.industry1.html
msdw.com/techresearch/inetad/
msdw.com/techresearch/inetad/iadc0222.pdf
Basicly even though a lot of "reports" say advertising budgets are
going to increase for the year, the earning reports all say the same thing...
its getting tougher & tougher for media companies to make money.
Advertising seditment is going down as well.
2. How much advertising budget will be diverted toward the web?
Keywords- market*
- advertis*
- budget*
- internet
Here's some links that stand out:
webadvantage.net/tip_archive.cfm?tip_id=153&&a=1
webadvantage.net/tip_archive.cfm?tip_id=74&&a=1
thestandard.com.au/metrics/display/0,1283,978,00.html
There's not much reading between the lines with this one, 60-65% of
revenues go toward marketing. With advertising spending being the number one
expense.
This link is also very interesting;
internetnews.com/IAR/article/0,,12_449801,00.html
this and many other articles that are all over the net about this issue
all say the same thing that, "shift away from relativey expensive TV
advertising to online advertising and marketing.
The percent of marketing budgets spent
online increased to 59 percent in Q2 from 48 percent in Q1."
3. Are people clicking more or less?
Keywords- "äverage click rate"
- banner*
Here's some links that stand out:
mrnews.com/12ts3ny/news/nnr-0401.html
Average click rates drop 37% to only a big 0.58%. That means for every
200 ad impressions there is ONE click. Now thats real low and the follow
through with the clicks is even lower meaning not everyone that clicks
makes a purchase.
4. Visual tricks used to lure clicking.
Keywords- advertis*
- strategy
Here's some links that stand out:
deca.org/7UPChallenge/webad.htm
webreference.com/dev/banners/research.html
adage.com/interactive/articles/19970113/article3.html
adage.com/interactive/articles/19960304/article1.html
So we see that there are many tricks to grap the users attention. There
are even contests to create "the greatest eye cathing banner".
Colours: Eye grabbing colours
Animation: Movement grabs users attention; frames
Frequency: A user must see the banner often
Placement: Banner gets more clicks next to the right scroll
@ the top & bottom of page
third of the page down etc.
Enticing Words: Free, Click Here, etc.
5. How much does an advertising campaign on the web cost?
Keywords- CPM
- advertis*
- campaign
- average
Here's some links that stand out:
msdw.com/techresearch/inetad/inetad01.pdf -->pg.38
All sites use CPM as a measure of how exspensive advertisng will be on
their site. The average CPM is $30.00 dollars.
The average marketing campaign will spend about $10,000 dollars
on advertising "for the web" while a marketing campaign "on television"
would cost - on average - $340,000 dollars.
So in conclusion if it cost $30 dollars to make 1000 people see an ad
(CPM) that means 5 people will end up clicking that ad (Ad click rate).
Thats 5 potential customers for only $30 dollars. A big cost difference
in comparison to the old way - that used to be 'the only way' - television.
Which probably explains why this avenue of advertising is so interesting
for the advertisers and why they pour so much money into learning how to
make it work.
3) Stalking: Europolticians and powerful puppeteers
codename: Melchom
everybody and his dog on-line... privacy bye bye...
stalking, hidden databases perusing, squeezing truths out of the media.
They want to be 'modern', they want to be 'internetted'... so they'r dumping
on line billions of data for the heck of it... yet some of these data
they should have better kept hidden :-)
Have a look at my [Strawberry fields... forever]
ramblings. Towards the end of the essay you'll find a page with a series of pointers to current legislation initiatives and
how to 'read' them. Ok, let's use this thema for a promising
stalking' lab: WHO EXACTLY DID GO OUT OF HIS WAY IN ORDER TO AVOID serious mad-cow (BSE) enquires in Europe?:
lobbysts? Who? Producers? Who? Bureaucrats? Who? Euro-Parlamentarians? Who? Members of the COREPER? Who? (Names
and e-mail addresses please :-)
Spelunking boldly
in the dark world of real polytical power and vermineous lobbies.
Suggestion: EP-Minutes; publications of the 'enemies' of your targets (in this case environmentalists and 'greens') and, last but not least, a stab at the almost "media-hidden" COREPER club
of the 15 powerful 'gray men' (who gave them those powers? When? Who controls them?) who are
publicity-shy (quite effectively) and did (and of course will) delight all sort of nutty
"conspiration theorists" around the world. These 15 power-brokers are nevertheless worth a full-fledged investigation per se :-)
An [example of possible solution] by ~Veliti~:
~MELCHOM~
First off I would like to apologize for my short comings in my essay
for
this lab exercise. For I have very little interest in following this
research topic in depth, but merely wish to complete the lab2 section.
So
just keep in mind that this is the bare minimal for such a topic that
actually resembles a cobweb.jpg of
conflicting stories. Getting to the 'truth' of such a topic would
trully
require some time consuming stalking activity. So I will give you some
links on the subject that I believe to hold some interest and let you
evaluate on your own from there. Anyways heres a try...
First off I need to understand the subject of BSE so Googles' directory
on
BSE will help
http://directory.google.com/Top/Science/Technology/Food_Science/Consumer_Concerns/BSE_-_Bovine_Spongiform_Encephalopathy/
This link is really worth looking at
http://www.europarl.eu.int/conferences/bse/a4002097_en.htm -BSE
inquiry. It
seems the cattle farmers (for breeding reasons), rendering companies...
basically the whole Agricultural community, and those in the government
dealing with Agriculture are to blame. http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/
gives
an extensive amount of letters, documents, memos etc. For a list of
cattle
breeds originating in Europe-
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/region/f-europe.html. For a listing
of
Animal Feed Manufacturers
-http://www.agregister.co.uk/farmersweekly/directory/browseresults.asp?orderby=1&letter=F.
Associated British Nutrition(ABN) owned by Associated British
Foods(ABF)
owned by Wittington Investments-
http://www.gm-info.org.uk/gm-info/briefings/abn.html is a very large
animal
feed manufacturer which has admitted to using practices that are known
to
transmit BSE. Now in the EP Report on BSE(a4002097) we see that BSE
was not
a topic discussed at length. First we must see how the EU works and
who
'gets issues discussed'.
-http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg10/eur_dial/97i5a3s0.html So it seems
these
business men have a lot of power, considering they control all
proposals
that reach EU ministers. So the blame must be particially there fault-
http://burmafund.org/Pathfinders/Research_Library/BAD/bad%belgium.htm
And
since they are business men it would seem their interests lay with
money.-http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/98industry.htm
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/index.asp
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/lookup.asp?firm=ON&client=ON&lobbyist=ON&txtName=agriculture&B1=OK
Next we see in a4002097 that the EU Commissioners were also at fault-
http://europa.eu.int/comm/commissioners/index_en.htm
Now the whole thing starts getting really interesting when we start to
look
into certain committees. MAFF-
http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/bse/index.html these guys tried to keep
a
lid on the BSE problem.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/background_briefings/bse/newsid_209000/209006.stm
http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/coverup_memo.html
http://www.ita.suite.dk/choisir.htm- ***The Letter***
-Keith Meldrum -chief veterinary officer at MAFF
Theres a short list at the end of this with many other names, to many
to
list them all.
Why would anyone put so many lives at risk?
Maybe for more profit and advancement in their career-
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/lyman/messages/9888.html
Why would MAFF try to keep such an important topic 'quite'?
Maybe for $$$-
http://www.google.com/search?q=%2B%22beef+prices+across+europe%22+%2Bbse&btnG=Google+Search
-MLC (a lobbyist group for meat & livestock)- http://www.mlc.org.uk/
the
funny thing about this group is their the ones that supply most of the
information the government relies on. Also get this, their
responsibilities
include human and animal health as well as promotion of beef products.
Thats kind of conflicting interests, don't you think?
Anyways I'm tried of writing and I'm sure you all can read a4002097.
I'll
just leave you with a incomplete, unorganized list you can persue at
leisure.
1. Ray MacSharry
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:NfDJrmSuB-M:www.rte.ie/millennia/people/macsharryray.html+%2B%22ray+macsharry%22&hl=en
2. Franz Fischier
3. John Gummer -gummerj@parliament.uk ,
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/person/biography/0,9312,-2109,00.html
4. Kenneth Clarke
5. Kenneth Calman
6. Donald Acheson
7. Douglas Hogg
8. John MacGregor
9. Richard Packer
10. Ray Bradley -r.bradley@vla.maff.gov.uk , raybradley@btinternet.com
11. William Howard Rees
-http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s126f.pdf
12. Keith Meldrum
13. Gilbert Castille
14. Southwood Members-
http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/pdf/volume4/Whoswho.pdf
(I completely forgot to talk about these guys :( sorry.)
15. http://www.quechoisir.org/dossiers/esb/deuxiemenote/gbnote.html
16. http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s145b.pdf -Don Curry
17. http://www.beef2000.co.uk/breed_societies/ -cattle breed societies
18. http://www3.mistral.co.uk/cgs/breeders.htm -another list of cattle
breeders
19. http://www.farminguk.co.uk/breeders.htm -beef breeders
20. http://www.fooduk.com/list.asp?Cat=34&Start=101 -beef producers
21. http://www.ledu-ni.gov.uk/leduweb/Product.asp?CATID=330&type=4
-companies using animal by products
22. http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/report/volume5/chapte62.htm -early
warnings
about breeding
23. http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s147.pdf -Colin Maclean
24. http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s510.pdf -Kate Timms
25. http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s511.pdf -David Durie
26. http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s487.pdf -MLC Statement
27. http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1994/02/25005001.pdf -letter
to R.
Steichen
28. http://www.channel4.com/news/home/20001026/Story01.htm -channel 4
29. http://europa.eu.int/comm/index_en.htm
30.
http://www.health.fgov.be/WHI3/krant/krantarch2000/kranttekstnov/001123m14eu.htm
31. http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/coverup_memo.html
Wow, what a list of names, and thats just the tip of the iceberg. But
what
can one do exactly with a list of names. Well this is a lab on
stalking so
lets stalk.
To give an example, my target will be H.E. Mr. Manfred
Scheich
of COREPER. Lets gather some information on our target ie. where he
works
(city its in, cities around it), what school he went to etc.
http://www.sigov.si/svez/uk/_doc/_articles/konf_portoroz/CV_Manfred.pdf
The more info the better, you can get a real feel for the target. Now
we
know the Mr. Scheich is a Former Permanent Representative of the
Republic of
Austria, so chances are he will live in his beloved country of Austria.
Now
depending on the country you may need a map to locate some surrounding
areas, but for this target that won't be nessary. Lets use
Infospace.com
and look him up in the phonebook :).
There he is
http://kevdb.infospace.com/intldb/kevdb?OTMPL=%2Fres%2Fr1.html&QFM=N&QK=5&KCFG=AT&QN=scheich&QF=manfred&QC=
Now of course this person would have to be cross checked and
confirmed
but thats it. Heres some links (some maybe broken... did not check)
http://directory.google.com/Top/Business/Resources/Directories/Europe/United_Kingdom/,
switchboard.com, bigfoot.com, http://ciir2.cs.umass.edu/Govbot/,
Infospace.com, people.yahoo.com, home.wizard.com/wwpr.html,
worldpages.com/reshome.html, worldmail.com/wede4.shtml, who-me.com,
whowhere.com, bt.com/phonenetuk/, tis.telekom.si, phonebook.com.sg,
samoa.co.uk/phone.html, one7.com, whitepages.co.nz,
telefoungids.ptt.telecom.al, www2.hkt.com/hkt/dqi/, infobel.be,
whitepages.com.au, anywho.com, infophil.com/World/Alumni/, kadima.com,
aol.com/netfind/emailfinder.adp, aol.com/netfind/yellowpages.html blah
blah
blah
Anyways now a days even a simple email address can help reveal a lot of
information about who and where you are.
~Veliti~
venavedavinci_at_hotmail_dot_com
4) Images seeking: No two snowflakes look alike
codename: Magrad
Snowflackes!
Usenet combing, Images databases, university archives perusing, references on the web, Internet scientific publications retrieval techniques
How often did you hear that one? "There are not and there never will be two snowflakes alike". Micro-infinity? And then, near such an assertion, you'll always have a small image with five-six (different) snowflakes... always the same five-six? :-)
Let's find out the truth... somewhere on the huge web there are THOUSANDS of snowflakes images... let's see IF and HOW different they really are. Enough banalities: seekers will find out the truth...
Spelunking boldly
the images web-world
Suggestion: Fractals, Infinite, Mathematical algos, fuzzy...
An [example of possible solution] by Loki
[Magrad] : No two snowflakes look alike
On the nature of snow crystals, and why they form such a variety of shape -- an investigation into the genesis of form.
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General information
Time collecting and querying : ~2 hours
Major Search Engines used : Google, Surfwax, RagingSearch. No use of Usenet Database.
Specific Search Engines used : Knowledge Network Explorer Search, The Research Index
Attachment : loki_magrad_pool.txt
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How often did you hear that one? "There are not and there never will be two snowflakes alike".
A simple query on "similar snowflakes" on google leads to an interesting pdf file,wich i used as a starting point. Here, we see that a more exact ( in term of signal intensity ) sentence is "no two snowflakes are alike". It would have been too easy if +F just have pasted it instead of "There are not and there never will be two snowflakes alike". No M (mechanical) mode allowed :p
So, what's interesting in that pdf ? Two major output :
Wilson Bentley, an american photographer, worked on 6000 snowflakes, viewing them on microscope, to see if he could find identical one ( omg ... ). Guess what ? He failed :) That was during the beginning of the 20th centuary.
The second major output for us is that there is a Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado,who found two very similar snowflakes. It is not said that they were identical ...
We've got a starting point now :)
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Now, let's find who's that Bentley dude.
http://www.snowflakebentley.com/
Wilson A. Bentley The Snowflake Man
From the earliest memories of our childhood, many of us can remember hearing the phrase "no two snowflakes are alike". This discovery was made in the small rural town of Jericho, Vermont by Wilson A. Bentley (1865-1931).
A self educated farmer, Bentley attracted world attention with his pioneering work in the area of photomicrography, most notably his extensive work with snow crystals (commonly known as snowflakes). By adapting a microscope to a bellows camera, and years of trial and error, he became the first person to photograph a single snow crystal in 1885.
He would go on to capture more than 5000 snowflakes during his lifetime, not finding any two alike. His snow crystal photomicrographs were acquired by colleges and universities throughout the world and he published many articles for magazines and journals including, Scientific American and National Geographic.
In 1931 his book "Snow Crystals", containing more than 2400 snow crystal images, was published by McGraw-Hill but has long been out of print. A soft cover copy, identical in all respects, can be obtained today from Dover Publications, Inc.. On December 23, 1931, Bentley died at the family farmhouse in Jericho. Because of his wonderful work with snow crystals, he became affectionately known as "Snowflake" Bentley.
I want to SEE some ! :)
http://www.snowflakebentley.com/snowflakes.htm
blah ...
To fill your eyes with beautifull pictures taken by the "Snowflake man" in 1902, try here instead : http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/nws/wea02069.htm to wea02098.htm
hemm, there is another hunt for the snowflakes ? Did +F ripped it ? :p
http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/fil/pages/huntsnowflakmr2.htm
an Internet Treasure Hunt on Snowflake Bentley
anyway, we can use some of these ressources (i didit to find the KNES engine)
We know enough on Bentley for our challenge. Let's go deeper. Does his work valuable nowaday ? After reading his articles, can we say : No there can't be two identical snowflakes ?
http://www.snowflakebentley.com/wwwboard/messages/24.htm
Wilson Bentley was the originator of the well-known saying that no two snowflakes are alike, yet on page 43 of his book, Snow Crystals, the top two snow crystals in the center column are very much alike.
haha !
They are alike because the same photograph mistakingly was used for both of them, though the upper photo has been rotated 60 degrees clockwise from the lower one.
duh !
So put the flag away. Bentley's famous saying is still true
Can i believe you dude ? :) (posted on August 01, 2000 at 15:16:52 ... at least it is recent)
Hmmm ... that board is related to snowflakes, that guys MUST know what they say !
To be sure, we could do a REALLY fast stalking on Duncan Blanchard to find if he is reliable.
Duncan C. Blanchard holds degrees in engineering (B.S., Tufts, 1947), physics (M.S., Penn State, 1951), and meteorology (Ph.D., MIT, 1961), and has conducted research in the atmospheric sciences at General Electric, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, and the Atmospheric Sciences Research Center, SUNY-Albany. He has published more than 150 articles and books. His book From Raindrops to Volcanoes, written for a popular audience, has been printed in seven languages.
Blanchard has long held an interest in Bentley's life. A natural affinity developed due to Bentley's work with snow crystals and Blanchard's interest in the development and growth of snowflakes, snow crystals, raindrops, and the seeding of clouds.
Do you think he is reliable according to Sielaff's lessons ?
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Now, let's go searching the National Center for Atmospheric Research we saw sooner. Can we find the two identical snowflakes they thinked having found ?
http://www.ucar.edu/imagelibrary/1167-1199.html
1175 Snowflakes (Two Identical)
Hmm .. not really helping, but interesting :)
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Using the KNES engine on the Filamentality (don't ask why that name...) querying "snowflake alike", we can collect lots of information usefull to go deeper in our challenge.
http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
This site is all about snow crystals and snowflakes. Although a common meteorological phenomenon, snow crystal growth is a fascinating and poorly understood process, in which remarkably complex and beautifully symmetric structures appear, quite literally, out of thin air. The many facets of snow crystals are described here, along with our attempts to understand their formation.
I'm sure we'll find all we want there :)
Be sure to check these one :
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/earlyobs/earlyobs.htm
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/class/class.htm
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/photos/photos.htm
From that last one, we can have a list of photographs who had work on that subject :
1931 -- Wilson A. Bentley
1954 -- Ukichiro Nakaya
1969 -- Edward LaChapelle
1981 -- Schaefer and Day
1984 -- Kobayashi and Kuroda
1994 -- Walter Tape
1994+ -- William Wergin
1997 -- Walter Wick
2000 -- Patty Rasmussen
2000 -- Yoshinori Furukawa (fiewwww ... his photos are ... fascinating. Check his site : http://www.lowtem.hokudai.ac.jp/~frkw/english/aletter.html)
To finish with that site, we can check its reliability with a "combing like" raging search query :
+link:"http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals" : About 348 pages found.
+link:"snowcrystals.net" : About 3 pages found
+link:"http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals" +domain:edu : About 64 pages found.
+link:"http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals" +domain:gov : About 2 pages found.
imho, this site can be considered as a reference ...
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A recent way of taking pictures of snowflakes is the Electron microscopy. Seems to appear on 1994 with William Wergin. Let's look closer
http://www.lpsi.barc.usda.gov/emusnow/default.htm
Snow Crystal Research
Something to outline : http://www.lpsi.barc.usda.gov/emusnow/ww/snow.htm
Snow Crystal Publication List (linked to full text)
Check the .txt if interested :)
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I don't know if that's an answer to the challenge ... i believe we can't find two identical ones, for the same reasons that we can't really mesure the britain coast ...
I don't want to look to thousand of pictures to be sure of it, i've got other things to do in my life - all my respects are deserved to Bentley .. he was from that kind of dreamers i RESPECT -
I wouldn't trade places with Henry Ford or John Rockefeller for all their millions! And I wouldn't change places with a king: not for all his power and glory. I have my snowflakes! -- Bentley
Seekers can find the truth, if saying that bentley was right is a truth ... can we WRITE the truth ?
let's see IF and HOW different they really are.
We can build a big gallery with all the snowflake pictures we found, and try to use an algorithm to compare them ... but that can't work. That's only pictures. We don't have the ressource of the Snow Crystal Research.
I didn't use the suggestions (Fractals, Infinite, Mathematical algos, fuzzy...) as a core for my seeking.
I am a children of the Chaos ( cf B. Sapoval's publications )
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Valuable ressources collected :
http://www.snowflakebentley.com/resources.htm#links
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/links/links.htm
http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/fil/pages/list4thgradms.html
Images :
http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/nws/wea02069.htm to wea02098 (photolib.noaa.gov seems to be a nice site)
Out of Subject Valuable Sites :
http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/bluewebn/
search on blue ribbon sites
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"Snow crystals are the hieroglyphs sent from the sky." -- Nakaya, 1954
loki
http://www.stny.com/wbng/wx/stwintermikerandal.pdf
"no two snowflakes are alike"
Studies by Wilson Bentley, an american photographer on 6000 snwflk on microscope
Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, found two very similar snwflk
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Search in Surfwax : "no two snowflakes are alike" + Bentley
fast "on the fly" evaluation
http://www.snowflakebentley.com/wwwboard/messages/24.htm
[BACKTRACE] http://www.snowflakebentley.com/
Wilson A. Bentley The Snowflake Man
>>> http://www.snowflakebentley.com/resources.htm#links <<<
http://www.sciam.com/askexpert/environment/environment23/environment23.html
Why do snowflakes crystallize into such intricate structures?
Charles A. Knight is a Senior Scientist : the National Center for Atmospheric Research
begin here : http://www.sciam.com/askexpert/environment/environment7.html
http://www.ucar.edu/
http://www.ucar.edu/ucar/search.html
http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/nws/wea02069.htm ->
>>> http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/fil/pages/huntsnowflakmr2.html <<<
an Internet Treasure Hunt on Snowflake Bentley
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Search in NCAS : "snowflake"
http://www.ucar.edu/imagelibrary/1167-1199.html
1175 Snowflakes (Two Identical)
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http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/fil/pages/huntsnowflakmr2.html
http://www.kn.pacbell.com/kne_search.html
K nowledge N etwork E xplorer S earch
http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/bluewebn/
search on blue ribbon sites
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Search in Filamentality (KNES) : "snowflake alike"
http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/fil/pages/list4thgradms.html
>>> http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/ <<<
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/photos/photos.htm
(...) 1994+ -- William Wergin (...)
http://www.lpsi.barc.usda.gov/emusnow/default.htm
Snow Crystal Research
http://www.lpsi.barc.usda.gov/emusnow/ww/snow.htm
Snow Crystal Publication List (linked to full text)
http://www.lpsi.barc.usda.gov/emusnow/ww/262.txt
The shapes of snow crystals have been extensively studied
and photographed with the light microscope (Bentley, 1904;
1923; Bentley and Humphreys, 1931; Nakaya, 1954).
http://www.lpsi.barc.usda.gov/emusnow/ww/277.txt
USE OF LOW TEMPERATURE SCANNING ELECTRON MICROSCOPY
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/links/links.htm
Snow Crystal Links
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Some tips before leaping into it:-
How easy (or difficult) was it to figure out the correct approach?
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Was the formulation adequate to help you plan your search?
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Which search-approaches and strategies did you choose?
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Did you use any "classical" search engine? If so which ones?
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Did you use any "special" search engine? If so which ones?
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How many results did you retrieve?
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What proportion of the results were relevant to your perceived information requirements?
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How current were the results? How many 404s?
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Was the amount of detail displayed with the results enough to allow you tho evaluate?
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Was the order in which the results were displayed evident or apparently illogical?
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What other features contribute to (or detract from) the utility of the tools and approaches you choosed?
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Did you time your query?
Eh, of course you don't need to answer all the questions above. The purpose of these
labs is to let you understand how important it is to be more "systematic" when searching the web. You may
hop, you may leap, you may be a grasshopper or an ant... the only decisive
factor is the success
of your query and the time you had to employ: you got the targets you were searching for
quickly? You won.
Feedback, critics, suggestions, ameliorations... welcome!
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